Data-driven insights and news
on how banks are adopting AI
20 June 2024
Hello from London!
We gathered over 200 senior leaders in finance and AI yesterday on the 42nd floor of the Leadenhall Building for the Evident AI Symposium. For those of you who couldn’t make our biannual event in person or virtually – or want to revisit the conversation – today’s Special Edition of the Brief offers some highlights and takeaways from the discussions of how AI and other emerging technologies are going to reshape the banking industry.
Some big themes jumped out to the two of us from the day we all spent together.
Everyone is focused on execution: how to bring promising AI use cases into, well, use. We heard a lot about the need to show a return on their efforts. In short, what data strategies, tools, platforms and internal policies will enable them to realize their AI strategies. And of course innovation. There are many paths here. Banks, like other businesses, are only at the beginning of this journey.
“I think the one thing you can predict is that change will be fast,” said Clare Barclay from Microsoft, speaking for many in the room. “You know, I’ve had the pleasure of working in the tech sector for over 30 years – and I’ve never seen anything like the last year. It’s both exciting, breathtaking, and a little [gasps] at times.”
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— Alexandra Mousavizadeh & Annabel Ayles
Over eight hours of conversations on stage, and more in the corridors and dining tables outside, some themes came up repeatedly. Here are the three most eye-catching ones:
Zachery Anderson (NatWest), Sameer Gupta (DBS), and Rinesh Patel (Snowflake) discuss with Ryan Heath (Robin AI) how banks can better use their data to drive better performance of AI applications.
If 2023 was the year of experimentation, Nvidia’s Jochen Papenbrock told the audience, 2024 is all about industrialization.
Far more use cases are moving down the “AI Factory” line. On Wednesday, we heard numerous updates on sheer numbers: Deutsche Bank has 200 use cases in the pipeline, some going into production this year. Natwest: 400, 100 “prioritized”. DBS: 350. BNY: 700 (more or less) use cases. They were reluctant, however, to discuss specifics on which ones are most promising before any formal rollouts.
And they are able to get them out the door faster. Zachery Anderson at NatWest said the time from proof of concept (POC) to production came down from “24 months on average to something more like 90 days” since he joined the bank in 2020.
Speed matters. AI teams can decide if the POC is likely to generate value earlier, and then redeploy resources or cherry pick what they’ve learned or liked to other projects. “Reusability” is a new buzz word we learned yesterday.
There’s growing pressure from the markets and boards to show the value from the huge investment in this emerging technology.
So another priority now is to figure out how to “enable” and scale a bank’s AI strategy by building strong guardrails, fine tuning data strategies and putting a lot of effort into training people across departments on how to use new AI applications.
JPMC’s Guy Halamish said his bank uses the following framework to assess use cases and whether to move ahead with them:
Offering a different approach, Dan Jermyn at CommBank preached holism.
“We have tilted away from looking at a straight ‘use case by line of business’ approach, towards building capability and enablement,” he said. “As it becomes easier to deploy AI, there is less of a need to balance and compare the ROI of this use case versus others – and move towards everyone across the bank being able to provide a solution after they’ve spotted something that can make a customer's life better. And you can't do that easily if you have a complex sliding scale of what does or does not get built.”
Dan Jermyn (CommBank), Guy Halamish (JPMC), and Marco Li Mandri (ING) discuss with Alexandra Mousavizadeh (Evident) how banks are measuring the success of AI use cases.
Everyone keeps saying humans must stay in the loop, but that tune changes when people look beyond the horizon. There they see – with conviction if not quite full clarity – that AI Agents will be a lot more autonomous and that quantum computing is the next transformative technology.
If intelligence might be defined as perception, cognition and action, current AI applications are only doing the first, noted Manuela Veloso, head of AI research at JPMC. This is where agentic AI comes in, which would see the models act on their own. Her example is an AI Agent that will fully answer the piles of daily emails in our inbox.
“If you believe in an AI future, you have to build it first,” said Tony Kim, head of tech sector fundamental equities at BlackRock. Over the last two years, we’ve built the foundation with computing power. To have a robust AI ecosystem, you have to layer on cloud, model, data, applications and services, he said.
As for quantum computing, which would let us solve problems that current systems can’t, that’s “as close to the future as possible,” said Chris Bishop, the host of Inside Quantum Technology podcast, getting a laugh from the audience.
That may be sooner than we realize. JPMC built an 80-person strong team to work on quantum and invested $100 million in Quantinuum. The company’s co-founder, Ilyas Khan, told us yesterday that quantum computing would arrive by 2027. Possible use cases? Derivative pricing, portfolio optimization and stochastic modeling (translation: accounting for randomness in insurance and financial models).
You can watch each panel session here.
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Throughout the Symposium, our AI transcription tool kept a tally of the top “buzz words” mentioned on stage. A scoop: AI didn’t even come in first. Data did.
Here’s the leaderboard.
Evident AI Symposium: June 19th
Source: Evident Analysis
PS: Why Sheryl Crow? Well the American singer recently released ‘Evolution’, where where she shares her feelings about AI: “Where are we headed in this paradise?” she sings. “We are passengers and there's no one at the wheel. No matter how well you can outdo me. There is one thing you will never do and it's feel.”
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